Can portable fire extinguishers be removed from a manufacturing facility covered by a sprinkler system?
NFPA 1 lists multiple tables with extinguisher location requirements for different occupancies and hazards. See Table 184.108.40.206.1.1 as an example.
Thanks! Your information leads me in the right direction
I did find NFPA 10 2018 5.1.2 5.1.2 The selection of extinguishers shall be independent of whether the building is equipped with automatic sprinklers, standpipe and hose, or other fixed protection equipment.
I will float this question next opportunity with AHJ but they preach IFC.
For an industrial occupancy, NFPA 101 doesn't require any extinguishment.
NFPA 101, 2019 edition
40.3.5 Extinguishment Requirements. (Reserved).
What does your AHJ say?
Thank you Christopher.
I'm not sure that just because the Extinguishment Requirements do not list anything means that no means of extinguishment are required. Would you help me understand your reasoning?
For the Life Safety Code (NFPA 101), you typically reference the occupancy chapter first to find out what is required. Manufacturing facilities fall under the Industrial Occupancy classification in NFPA 101. When they say that a section is reserved, that means that they have left a placeholder to add future requirements, but do not require anything at the current time.
So in general, extinguishment is not required for an industrial occupancy. But if you dig deeper, automatic extinguishing systems may be required based on the types of the hazards in the facility (see Chapter 40.3.2).
Now if your facility is subject to OSHA, you may need portable fire extinguishers to comply with 29 CFR 1910.157 (OSHA General Industry Standards for Portable Fire Extinguishers).
So ask your AHJs, and don't forget to check with your insurance company, too (an often overlooked AHJ).
I hope this helps.
Yes - Thank you!
The question to first ask is what code that you are following; for the AHJs that adopt the ICC codes, fire extinguishers are required for all occupancies (See section 906 of the 2012, 2015, 2018 IFC editions). I believe the 2009 IFC allowed group A, B and E occupancies, equipped with quick response sprinkler heads, to eliminate the fire extinguisher requirements though this was added back into the code in 2012. Remember, Chapter 1 of the IFC... see 102.7.1 of he 2018 edition... states where conflicts occur between provisions of this code and referenced codes and standards, the provisions of this code shall apply.
The local AHJ has adopted IFC 2015. Thank you for your information.
The two defenses are intended for two different situations. The fire extinguishers are for use by the occupants to control a fire in it's initial stages. If they control the fire the sprinklers will not, hopefully, be activated. If the fire is not extinguished with the extinguishers the sprinkler system will limit the damage, again hopefully, saving the building.
Thank you for your input!
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