I'm looking for help determining if a small diesel power plant with temporary living quarters is required to have a notification or/and a full fire system.
How many sq ft?In the USA?
The whole place has center covered area that is open at the ends which is 10'x60' and has 4 connex's that are 40'x10' attached on the long sides for a total of 8 connex's. The housing is one of the 40' x 10' connex's. There is separation between each unit and they are each self contained. This is in the US. It's hard to explain. Wish I could draw it out.
It will be up to the local building dept, or state whoever has jurisdiction over the site.
I am thinking depending on how long they will be there, just smoke alarms and if no door directly to the outside from each bedroom, a code complying window in each bedroom.
How are you connected with this??????????
I'm their insurer. I don't believe the living quarters has large enough windows and there is one door in that leads to the common area in the center.
This would be my reply for a year or less and with out seeing the set up::
I am thinking depending on how long they will be there, just smoke alarms,, in each bedroom, and outside each bedroom, and if no door directly to the outside from each bedroom, a code complying window in each bedroom.
Fire Extinguishers of course.
Is this for emergency shelter? We are currently putting up tent structure with local smoke detectors and fire extinguishers to take in patients and homeless due to a declared emergency. I would make sure that exiting is provided and keep the power plant 25 feet away from the structure to avoid fumes entering the building.
These are permanent structures.
temporary living quarters
These are permanent structures but they are only used when employees need to stay at the location. Could be the job requires an overnight stay, or they could get stuck at the location due to weather. If there is a major overhaul it could take several days.
OK changes things.
Besides the smoke alarms and windows.
See if Washington state, or the city these are in, or the county requires fire sprinklers in "R" occupancy.
Then you should treat is as a permanent structure and require the fire protection systems for that occupancy. This is a great question right now. Good Luck Don.
The International Building codes have nothing to do with an offshore applications. Offshore platforms are reviewed under 46 CFR 108. They may also be reviewed by a "Classification Society" to their rules. The rules issued by a classification society are virtually identical to IMO (International Maritime Organization) however they'll change the "...should..." to "...shall...".
46 CFR 108 has no requirement for the installation of fire alarm systems in "manned locations". You'll want to look at 46 CFR 108.123, and 127. Accommodation spaces are covered in 108.193 to 215. Fire Extinguishing systems are addressed in Subpart D (46 CFR 108.401 to 413). Hand portable fire extinguishers are addressed in 108.491 to 108.496. Much of the fire protection requirements also includes "Structural" systems, however I suspect the building manufacture is pursuit "Classification Society" approval for the building. Don't let the Classification Society review the fire protection, which they'll likely want to do for financial reasons, however you should know that they are prohibited by USCG from actually "Approving" them. All they'll do is review the design, ask a number of questions, and write a cover letter to the USCG recommending they approve the system. You can save money if the fire protection company deals direct with the USCG.
They do have other requirements for the occupants of a building, including gas detection. Normally occupant notification is provided by a "PAGA" (Paging and General Alarm System). This is one reason you shouldn't be driving audibles from a local fire alarm panel. The PAGA requirements are that they be able to provide "INSTRUCTION" to the occupants (i.e. speakers). If there isn't a feature in the fire alarm panel to attenuate the audibles, it become difficult to hear the "INSTRUCTIONS".
The requirement for generators depends on the size of the "Primary Mover" (i.e. Generator). This is dependent on the cylinder size of the generator. Have a look at Subpart D
Because the USCG doesn't mandate fire alarm systems under 46 CFR 108, you're not required to install a USCG approved fire panel. Users that do install fire panels are permitted under NVIC (Navigation and Vessel Inspection Circular) 7-80 (7th NVIC issued in 1980). This allows for the use of US OSHA NRTL approved equipment.
This will change in July of 2021 for applications other than those regulated under 46 CFR 108, and users will only be allowed to install equipment that is UL 864 Listed. When the USCG made this change, they rejected the use of FM 3010, stating that it wasn't a "Consensuses" standard.
If your going to mandate that they install a fire alarm system, as the Insurer, that the following should be followed:
1. Install a NRTL approved system (FM 3010 can still be used).
2. Design and install the system as if it was any building and use smoke detectors
3. Require that the panel be monitored by the PAGA system and that Speakers be provided in the space.
Don't forget this is a building that's on land and there is not "Public Way" for them to run out to, when there is a fire.
That a big detail that was left out of the conversation. You are under totally different regulations on a off shore platform. I think the comments were for a land base building and the regulation that apply.
Not sure where offshore came from but that is not what I'm dealing with. These are remote locations.
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